Coach Ted talks about the misunderstood and underappreciated power of internal repair systems and why the placebo effect exists.
The Placebo Effect
arrow_drop_down_circle
Divider Text
[Block//Author//First Name] [Block//Author//Last Name] [Block//Date Added %M j, Y g:i a%+0d0h0m]
[Block//Comment]
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
This is the Ted O'Neill Program where we explore the science and philosophies for performance optimization, and the elevation of the human experience from the mind of Ted O'Neill with Jon Leon Guerrero.
0:27 Ted
I want to go one step further with a belief that's commonly held so we can begin to put more weight and meaning into our personal experience and the things that we accept before we go on the big ride. We've talked about the format of bio, we've talked about world records and all this stuff, the placebo effect. I was just talking about this today. In fact, there's books written about this. There's all manner of documentation in fact, for medication to be released into the general public, it has to beat the placebo. Now, what is the placebo? You give someone a sugar pill. They think they're getting a medication that's going to cure whatever their ailment is. And so, in the cases where this works, which is usually 30% or north of that, their body is creating the placebo effect. 30% or higher even. Now, keep in mind, these are also an untrained mind. I'm talking about training as the way to get something. These are people who are hoping they're getting something outside of them. So, by definition, that within their own training, they're hoping something outside of them is going to change something inside of them, which is the opposite of power.
1:37 Jon
And the opposite of what actually happens in the placebo effect.
1:41 Ted
Thank you, sir, yes, because their body is then going to create the proper pharmacology internally to heal whatever it is that they perceived as they're ill. And that happens, essentially one time out of three. And this is such a known thing placebo.
1:57 Jon
Let's say with the active ingredient of belief.
2:00 Ted
That's what it is. An untrained, undisciplined, mind. So that's like if people walked into the gym, they received no training, and everyone got one opportunity to do an exercise and we gauge that as their limit. Well, we know that because there's a whole process of training but what about training the mind? So, an untrained mind about one out of three can get all the way better. And there's all manner of markers on this. So, I was listening to a lecture by Joe Dispenza. At one point, he talked about this because he wrote a whole book on the placebo effect. And he talks about if it's a white pill, there's a certain level of efficacy. If it's a gel cap, the percentage goes up. If it's a gel cap that has a certain color on it, it goes up, if there's a gel cap with a with a company logo, it goes up even higher.
2:51 Jon
I can understand that. I mean, as you describe it, this is the first I've heard of this effect, but I can understand all of those things and the origins and let me just use a different simile. We're talking about somebody who's never played basketball walking into a gym with belief alone, making a shot from half court. Can it happen? Yes, we know that that's true.
3:13 Ted
Because someone wins 50 grands, you know, they did this in a halftime show, right? This happens.
3:17 Jon
But then the flip side of that is now we're talking about okay, if we know that it can be true for somebody to simply believe that they can make that shot and then walk in and however haphazardly make the shot. Now we're going to teach somebody to shoot.
3:31 Ted
Yeah, right. So, would they be able to do.
3:33 Jon
Yeah, let that sink in as we discuss where our possibilities lie.
3:38 Ted
Now, I want to take that exact thing we're talking about with placebo want to go one step further, because this is so indoctrinated in our minds at this point that people understand placebo, and yet they understand it the point of they'll say something like this. Well, I hope it's not just placebo, that’s why it’s working.
3:54 Jon
Why? Why would you hope that?
3:58 Ted
I hope it wasn't my own power. I hope it was from somewhere else. But this is a common thing because we think that if we haven't received something outside of us that we're going to lose the cure may tell you a little story on this because people can accept placebo effect as it's taught, because it's become so common, and we've heard it enough times. It's familiar so it's no longer creating a barrier. But what about placebo surgeries? Are you aware that placebo surgeries, there's a guy in Britain who has been there for quite a while, on gross mechanical defects like massive arthritic changes in someone's knee? And when he does these surgeries, it's the same percentage,
4:39 Jon
But in the placebo, he'll bring you in as if there's a procedure to be performed, puts you out as if a procedure will be performed.
4:48 Ted
Catch you open, have one of the monitors a video of an actual successful procedure. He'll talk to the staff as this has happened in real time. So, you backup sitting you out. The same percentage get better from a placebo surgery than they do a sugar pill. Now, when I tell people that data bit, they say, Oh, I don't see how that could happen, which is a great curiosity because they can accept that this person over here can overcome cancer or whatever it is, just by creating the pharmacology in their mind, but it's yet somehow if they believe that matter has been affected, which is How's that different than within the body? But they can't see it. So, we think of our eyes can see all these lumps on someone's leg. But they're told that that's what that is, and that can't possibly happen. So, here's the rub with this. This doctor, I guess three years after the time of the surgeries when he goes back and tells those who received a successful healing on this placebo surgery. I want to say I don't know if I have the numbers exactly right. But three years later, he goes and he tells half the people instantly regress back to the initial condition. Because man, I hope I didn't have a placebo surgery. I'm not really better then.
6:04 Jon
Right. Because the active ingredient once again, is I don't want to use this word in a religious connotation, but the active ingredient is belief. So, they've created like you said the pharmacology from within to do this. You know, the thing about a lot of these ailments is they are a result of internally created pharmacology in the other direction.
6:27 Ted
Well, yes. So, let's go there for a minute. Because this is a huge piece of this whole thing, because generally speaking, when I start talking about this, when people are suffering from some malady, they're going to interpret a level of judgment. Now, as you said earlier, we're completely removing that. Frankly, for me, I don't really care how anyone lives their life. And again, I'm not evangelical in spreading this message to anyone who doesn't want to hear it. I don't have the time the inclination or the energy, nor do I care. It's like I used to be in a place where, frankly, I would judge people for certain things in certain ways. And then I got to this place where I just realized that just doesn't matter because it's their life. And I only resonate with those who wants to be part of some of the things that we're doing and everyone else is completely free to do all the things that they want to do. There's going to be a lot that when you start explaining to someone, some of these things, they take some of this person, well, this it's a genetic thing I got this from no, that's not how it works. So, it's one of the things that the field of epigenetics has shown is there's like three ultra-rare blood diseases that no one's ever heard of, because like no one has them, and then type one diabetes, and everything else, at least is under contention as to whether or not it's actually passed through the genes. If you look at the field of epigenetics, they're saying no, it's in fact not passed with the genes yet our current allopathic medicine learning's would say that many things are. So, there's some contention on this. So, if it's not paths through the genes, part of the resistance, I think is that then puts the onus back on the individual and they would say, well, then how did I get this way? And I think that answer is very, very simple. Especially when you understand a little bit about epigenetics, and that's our gene expression being shaped by our environment. So, then the physics concept of entrainment, which we've talked about frequently would answer all of that if you grow up in a household with certain belief systems and certain actions. And if we can understand and accept what our best neuroscience currently tells us, and that's within the first seven years of life 90% of our personality is developed subconsciously, by essentially having our brain in delta or theta wave. We're recording everything around this as fact. 90% of our what we call a personality of our belief system is formed in those first seven years because we're in a different state of brainwave. Yeah, 95% of the time. As adults, we're replaying that 90%.
9:22 Jon
Well, okay, let me hit the pause button there and let's go up a little higher because we sometimes need to elevate our view to understand. At some point. When somebody says, Well, you know, you're questioning this, or you're stating that this is how we are wired, but if we think from an evolutionary standpoint, or just from a how things work standpoint, if you had designed the human machine you would design it that way, because you have to train people to do something. And this is the easiest way to train the masses. So once again, what we're asking you to do is take a look at this, and if any of this makes sense to you and you'd like to go on this ride, we don't know where the right ends. But if you'd like to go on this ride, hop on board. Let's find out because we're willing to say there's maybe something else. And when we talk about the formation of our personality in these first few years of our lives, this is no different than walking somebody into the assembly line into the factory and saying, Look, this is how we do things. I'm not going to explain to you all the nuances of how all these things evolved. I'm not going to tell you all of them, just keep your hands out of this machine when it's running so they don't get cut off and keep them make sure you're you know, all of the safety rules and all of these things and then be a good worker, show up on time and do your stuff and then eat lunch and then go home. So if we look at it from that level, then it makes sense that we are programmed this way. Now what we're saying is let's detach from the machine and see what happens.
11:07 Ted
Yeah, we also have a whole set of hidden controls. That allow for endless potential.
11:13 Jon
They'll keep the factory running. Let the people keep the factory.
11:16 Ted
It's going to be there, and then we'll do our thing. It's a lot more exciting to think about having the power to express limitless potential than it is to stay stuck in the veneer of reality of being the factory worker.
11:30 Jon
Did we just dare people to take the red pill or the blue pill? Anyway…
11:34 Ted
Which one because this rabbit hole does go down quite a bit.
0:27 Ted
I want to go one step further with a belief that's commonly held so we can begin to put more weight and meaning into our personal experience and the things that we accept before we go on the big ride. We've talked about the format of bio, we've talked about world records and all this stuff, the placebo effect. I was just talking about this today. In fact, there's books written about this. There's all manner of documentation in fact, for medication to be released into the general public, it has to beat the placebo. Now, what is the placebo? You give someone a sugar pill. They think they're getting a medication that's going to cure whatever their ailment is. And so, in the cases where this works, which is usually 30% or north of that, their body is creating the placebo effect. 30% or higher even. Now, keep in mind, these are also an untrained mind. I'm talking about training as the way to get something. These are people who are hoping they're getting something outside of them. So, by definition, that within their own training, they're hoping something outside of them is going to change something inside of them, which is the opposite of power.
1:37 Jon
And the opposite of what actually happens in the placebo effect.
1:41 Ted
Thank you, sir, yes, because their body is then going to create the proper pharmacology internally to heal whatever it is that they perceived as they're ill. And that happens, essentially one time out of three. And this is such a known thing placebo.
1:57 Jon
Let's say with the active ingredient of belief.
2:00 Ted
That's what it is. An untrained, undisciplined, mind. So that's like if people walked into the gym, they received no training, and everyone got one opportunity to do an exercise and we gauge that as their limit. Well, we know that because there's a whole process of training but what about training the mind? So, an untrained mind about one out of three can get all the way better. And there's all manner of markers on this. So, I was listening to a lecture by Joe Dispenza. At one point, he talked about this because he wrote a whole book on the placebo effect. And he talks about if it's a white pill, there's a certain level of efficacy. If it's a gel cap, the percentage goes up. If it's a gel cap that has a certain color on it, it goes up, if there's a gel cap with a with a company logo, it goes up even higher.
2:51 Jon
I can understand that. I mean, as you describe it, this is the first I've heard of this effect, but I can understand all of those things and the origins and let me just use a different simile. We're talking about somebody who's never played basketball walking into a gym with belief alone, making a shot from half court. Can it happen? Yes, we know that that's true.
3:13 Ted
Because someone wins 50 grands, you know, they did this in a halftime show, right? This happens.
3:17 Jon
But then the flip side of that is now we're talking about okay, if we know that it can be true for somebody to simply believe that they can make that shot and then walk in and however haphazardly make the shot. Now we're going to teach somebody to shoot.
3:31 Ted
Yeah, right. So, would they be able to do.
3:33 Jon
Yeah, let that sink in as we discuss where our possibilities lie.
3:38 Ted
Now, I want to take that exact thing we're talking about with placebo want to go one step further, because this is so indoctrinated in our minds at this point that people understand placebo, and yet they understand it the point of they'll say something like this. Well, I hope it's not just placebo, that’s why it’s working.
3:54 Jon
Why? Why would you hope that?
3:58 Ted
I hope it wasn't my own power. I hope it was from somewhere else. But this is a common thing because we think that if we haven't received something outside of us that we're going to lose the cure may tell you a little story on this because people can accept placebo effect as it's taught, because it's become so common, and we've heard it enough times. It's familiar so it's no longer creating a barrier. But what about placebo surgeries? Are you aware that placebo surgeries, there's a guy in Britain who has been there for quite a while, on gross mechanical defects like massive arthritic changes in someone's knee? And when he does these surgeries, it's the same percentage,
4:39 Jon
But in the placebo, he'll bring you in as if there's a procedure to be performed, puts you out as if a procedure will be performed.
4:48 Ted
Catch you open, have one of the monitors a video of an actual successful procedure. He'll talk to the staff as this has happened in real time. So, you backup sitting you out. The same percentage get better from a placebo surgery than they do a sugar pill. Now, when I tell people that data bit, they say, Oh, I don't see how that could happen, which is a great curiosity because they can accept that this person over here can overcome cancer or whatever it is, just by creating the pharmacology in their mind, but it's yet somehow if they believe that matter has been affected, which is How's that different than within the body? But they can't see it. So, we think of our eyes can see all these lumps on someone's leg. But they're told that that's what that is, and that can't possibly happen. So, here's the rub with this. This doctor, I guess three years after the time of the surgeries when he goes back and tells those who received a successful healing on this placebo surgery. I want to say I don't know if I have the numbers exactly right. But three years later, he goes and he tells half the people instantly regress back to the initial condition. Because man, I hope I didn't have a placebo surgery. I'm not really better then.
6:04 Jon
Right. Because the active ingredient once again, is I don't want to use this word in a religious connotation, but the active ingredient is belief. So, they've created like you said the pharmacology from within to do this. You know, the thing about a lot of these ailments is they are a result of internally created pharmacology in the other direction.
6:27 Ted
Well, yes. So, let's go there for a minute. Because this is a huge piece of this whole thing, because generally speaking, when I start talking about this, when people are suffering from some malady, they're going to interpret a level of judgment. Now, as you said earlier, we're completely removing that. Frankly, for me, I don't really care how anyone lives their life. And again, I'm not evangelical in spreading this message to anyone who doesn't want to hear it. I don't have the time the inclination or the energy, nor do I care. It's like I used to be in a place where, frankly, I would judge people for certain things in certain ways. And then I got to this place where I just realized that just doesn't matter because it's their life. And I only resonate with those who wants to be part of some of the things that we're doing and everyone else is completely free to do all the things that they want to do. There's going to be a lot that when you start explaining to someone, some of these things, they take some of this person, well, this it's a genetic thing I got this from no, that's not how it works. So, it's one of the things that the field of epigenetics has shown is there's like three ultra-rare blood diseases that no one's ever heard of, because like no one has them, and then type one diabetes, and everything else, at least is under contention as to whether or not it's actually passed through the genes. If you look at the field of epigenetics, they're saying no, it's in fact not passed with the genes yet our current allopathic medicine learning's would say that many things are. So, there's some contention on this. So, if it's not paths through the genes, part of the resistance, I think is that then puts the onus back on the individual and they would say, well, then how did I get this way? And I think that answer is very, very simple. Especially when you understand a little bit about epigenetics, and that's our gene expression being shaped by our environment. So, then the physics concept of entrainment, which we've talked about frequently would answer all of that if you grow up in a household with certain belief systems and certain actions. And if we can understand and accept what our best neuroscience currently tells us, and that's within the first seven years of life 90% of our personality is developed subconsciously, by essentially having our brain in delta or theta wave. We're recording everything around this as fact. 90% of our what we call a personality of our belief system is formed in those first seven years because we're in a different state of brainwave. Yeah, 95% of the time. As adults, we're replaying that 90%.
9:22 Jon
Well, okay, let me hit the pause button there and let's go up a little higher because we sometimes need to elevate our view to understand. At some point. When somebody says, Well, you know, you're questioning this, or you're stating that this is how we are wired, but if we think from an evolutionary standpoint, or just from a how things work standpoint, if you had designed the human machine you would design it that way, because you have to train people to do something. And this is the easiest way to train the masses. So once again, what we're asking you to do is take a look at this, and if any of this makes sense to you and you'd like to go on this ride, we don't know where the right ends. But if you'd like to go on this ride, hop on board. Let's find out because we're willing to say there's maybe something else. And when we talk about the formation of our personality in these first few years of our lives, this is no different than walking somebody into the assembly line into the factory and saying, Look, this is how we do things. I'm not going to explain to you all the nuances of how all these things evolved. I'm not going to tell you all of them, just keep your hands out of this machine when it's running so they don't get cut off and keep them make sure you're you know, all of the safety rules and all of these things and then be a good worker, show up on time and do your stuff and then eat lunch and then go home. So if we look at it from that level, then it makes sense that we are programmed this way. Now what we're saying is let's detach from the machine and see what happens.
11:07 Ted
Yeah, we also have a whole set of hidden controls. That allow for endless potential.
11:13 Jon
They'll keep the factory running. Let the people keep the factory.
11:16 Ted
It's going to be there, and then we'll do our thing. It's a lot more exciting to think about having the power to express limitless potential than it is to stay stuck in the veneer of reality of being the factory worker.
11:30 Jon
Did we just dare people to take the red pill or the blue pill? Anyway…
11:34 Ted
Which one because this rabbit hole does go down quite a bit.
LISTEN TO MORE EPISODES
LISTEN TO MORE EPISODES
clear
Lifted Academy is the next movement in human evolution, offering specific high-level strength training of any and all weaknesses found in the four planes of your existence: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.
Turn your biggest weakness into your greatest strength.